As to Povetkin's power, I doubt he hit as hard as Foreman, but he hit hard enough to KO the occasional contender, and blast out fringe / old guys....
You're thinking Ali/Frazier 2. That one had all the clinching. I agree that Povetkin wouldn't be throwing as many punches against Frazier as he...
Ali / Frazier 1 didn't have much clinching. A lot of the tactical analysis you're giving of how styles play off each other is beside the point....
According to the same sources you're replying to, Povetkin threw 513 power punches over 12. Frazier threw 578 over 15. On average, Povetkin was...
@McGrain has the right of it. McBride vs Wepner is closer to a competitive fight (which McBride probably wins.)
Povetkin threw more punches against Chambers over 12 rounds than Frazier (or Ali) did in the FOTC....
Isn't it everybody's?
Could be, but that wouldn't be the Ali of history that we see on film. It would be an imaginary Ali that we extrapolate based on how we think he...
Against McBride, I agree Sonny edges past him. Wouldn't wager much on it, though.
We're not talking about a prime Sonny Liston here, though. We're not talking about a great heavyweight head to head by that point. 2011 Adamek was...
Fair enough. I mean, he certainly did in the first one, so I think for purposes of this thread, the point would stand.
Yeah. He quit twice against Ali, but a fight with McBride would be a last chance sort of thing, and he'd probably be willing to go out on his...
Our mutual mistake, then. Yeah, Cleveland looks better in this than against Ali.
Thanks. A possibility that I hadn't considered is that Liston takes the Tyson route: he decides that he's too old for this ***, and gives up...
It was the most movement I'd seen from Terrell, and the shot opponent may play into that.
