The 1885 December fight between Godfrey and Talbot actually took place in 1886 and it was Isaac, not Ike, Talbot.
My 1885 year end; 1-Sullivan 2-McCaffrey 3-Burke 4-Mitchell 5-Kilrain 6-Cleary 7-Cardiff 8-Killen 9-Godfrey 10-Lees Simonlock has Greenfield and...
George Fryer was an interesting fighter, a footnote of 1885. An amateur champion in England from 1881 and he had sparred Greenfield(then English...
go for it...
pretty sure the fight was cancelled. Also, dont think the Cleary-Robertson-Couper fight took place.
In Maarch 1885 the oldest heavyweight rankings I have seen were published; 1-Sullivan 2-Mitchell 3-Fryer 4-Burke 5-Greenfield 6-Kilrain 7-Ryan...
We are getting close to agreement on top 10! Simon has Ryan and Greenfield, I have Cleary and Cardiff. I really didnt think much of Ryan with...
Jurgen Blin would be the closest....
My pick is Ellis, he outpointed fighters as good as Cleveland, I think Williams needs a KO and he never Ko'ed a fighter as good as Ellis. Mind you...
FAO SimonLock! Year-end; 1884 1-Sullivan 2-McCaffrey 3-Kilrain 4-Burke 5-Mitchell 6-Farnan 7-Cleary 8-Godfrey 9-Cardiff 10-Thompson Looking...
My 1893 year end ratings;, again fairly similar. I dont rank Foley, Farnan or Ryan(never did much with gloves after1881) but I rank Black...
