Frankly, what confuses me about this debate is you and Compton trashing Cerdan. It is ironic that a critic of LaMotta is defending Cerdan. I...
After the 1940's middle threads, I am sure you don't want to hear from me, but a few quick comments. Steele--looked good for a short while but...
I found taking part in this thread a lot of fun and I have learned a great deal about the 1940's middles, but most of what I have learned doesn't...
"Lytell, he had a great 1947" But shouldn't all the losses in 1945 and 1946 count also? Why does he get to wipe his slate clean and start over?...
Well, here is the AP & UPI on the Robinson-Abrams fight: AP-----"Sugar Ray Robinson was awarded a split decision over Georgie Abrams in Madison...
"Lamotta" I agree he has been overrated because of the film. It was a clever twist I think. Admit you're an SOB because the evidence is so...
I concede it is very possible the 27 year old LaMotta would have beaten the 33 year old 1949 Cerdan under any circumstances, but the injury does...
One man's opinion. If this is the Leon Thompson on boxrec, he didn't start his career until 1946, so I wonder how much he knows about a pre-war...
I remember watching the Joe Brown-Wallace Smith fight on TV back in 1956. Brown broke his right hand in the 2nd round and fought the whole fight...
"LaMotta enter 1947 the #1 contender. He deserved a title shot at that point." Perhaps in The Ring's opinion and yours. Not in mine. Cerdan...
"an injury just as severe as Cerdan's" Cerdan's against Williams in which he defeated Williams with the same injury as LaMotta, a broken bone in...
"he took on Lloyd Marshall" And lost badly, practically every round. It didn't really hurt his rating. Jake seems to have fought weasel...
"when LaMotta was number 1 rated heading into 1948" After losing to Hudson and Fox! "Jake was forced to take a dive" You buy his spin hook,...
Just on Belloise's credentials in 1949. The four guys LaMotta beat weren't all in the picture in 1949. Belloise hadn't fought Robinson and...
"Tiberio Mitri whom you claimed was not that good." I meant prior to Cerdan winning the world title, but I should have made myself clearer. He...
