The weakness of the weight pull argument in this case is that Jeff was an outlier in size in his own time who was beating men who were generally...
"the only big man he ever faced was Shkor" I don't see how Joe Louis can be dismissed as a big man, at about 6' 2" and 213. He was certainly...
Yes, I think we should agree to disagree. There is no common ground. "Robinson" & "Louis" Not two fighters I would select as examples of how to...
Just another question I would raise: "he should have defended against his nr 1 challenger, as Robinson and Louis did." I have no criticism of...
Zale lost the title in 1947. It was Graziano who would have had to have made the second title defense in 1947. In 1948, Zale was the challenger....
Here are some of the tax rates from 1950, the earliest "forties" year I have. I doubt if there is much difference. This is not the entire...
"He could easily have squeezed in one or two more deserving challengers in that time frame while still facing Graziano." The wartime tax rates...
"It definitely seems a bit iffy that he would rank so highly with no win of any note at MW." My point is that modern opinion doesn't really...
"Graziano was considered a legitimate contender, near the top, rightly or wrongly." This is the only thing which really matters concerning Zale...
LaMotta is quoted here giving his own spin, which I think is revealing:...
On the thread concerning why Louis didn't defend against Lem Franklin, there was this post: "That's not up to Louis. Promoters and matchmakers...
And the business bottom line is very clear. Here are gates that I have for middleweight championship fights during this era. The list goes down...
"I think it fair to say that the result of the fight is an anomaly in Robinson's record" So is Louis' KO defeat by Schmeling. In and of itself...
One possibility for a collapse in a long bout has never been raised about this one as far as I am aware. Generally if one man outlasts another it...
"Robinson had never been stopped before. "Robinson would never be stopped again (even at an advanced age). And how many other men did Robinson...
