Feel free to name some heavyweights you think kept the agility of the past lighter heavyweights.
Absolutely not. There isn't a single "big heavyweight" that can move like Walcott or Charles for example.
I think where people start maybe exaggerating his power is in reaction to posters understating his knockout ability and using it as a weapon to...
Those are your words not mine. I just said Ike would look like ****. Not that he would lose.
I disagree. Imo he was beaten once in his career albeit closely. Had he fought more at the top level I'm confident more holes would have appeared...
That's because Liston's team put something in Ali's eyes that blinded him in the 5th round. If you give that to Ali and take it away from Liston...
Rocky beats Bonavena and Chuvalo very decisively. Probably by TKO. He breaks down Quarry for a late rounds stoppage after a pretty good scrap with...
A rather small disagreement that I don't think is worth arguing about in the grand scheme of this conversation. Who exactly did Liston have to...
Not really. Scoring a fight is subjective for the most part. Personally, I'd probably score the round for the fighter that successfully defended...
I think we actually agree here. Foreman and Liston have specific distinct differences, notably in foot speed, and I also agree that Foreman was...
On which part? Only Tyson maybe being able to do it or Liston not being able to because Foreman couldn't? I consider Foreman to share many...
Ike couldn't even rule in his own era and wouldn't have had he not gone to prison. Lewis, Wlad, and Vitali would have beat him up. In my opinion...
I'm purely addressing the claim that cockell is not beating that version of Jimmy Young. He probably would. You said "Charles, Moore, etc." and I...
It's not unreasonable to think that the version of Cockell that fought Marciano would beat the version of Young that Tucker beat. Young hadn't won...
None of them but if forced to choose I say Tyson. If Foreman couldn't do it then neither could Liston.
