actually it does. do we lower ray robinson's ranking at welterweight because he lost a bunch of times at middleweight?? do we lower rafael...
:patsch:patsch great job missing the point. you can't take judge their middleweight credentials by using a fight that's not at the middleweight...
not to mention taylor's second loss to pavlik wasn't even at middleweight. why did you even put taylor's label of champion in quotations? there's...
so you're saying retaining your title against hopkins and wright in your first two matches are on par with retaining your title against rubio and...
if you were to take a combination of actual middlweight defenses along with their head to head, then JT is better than pavlik imo
i'm not talking about these ABC trinkets. i'm talking about the lineal middleweight championship. let us analyze pavlik's predecessor's and...
no. pac beat marquez twice. pac is the undisputed #1 p4p.
first the beast from the east for breakfast, then haye's gonna eat the klitschko sisters for lunch and dinner. :bbb
campbell may have retained his ranking in the various boxing sanctioning bodies, but his ranking in the eyes of boxing fans go way down.
*raises hand* i used to be a big pavlik fan after he knocked out miranda and taylor, but with his plethora of excuses after his loss to hopkins...
pavlik isn't half the man i thought he was. it's clear that he wants no part of paul williams. the fight gets signed... and then days later it's...
i never said anything about unification. pavlik is the lineal champion. he doesn't need to fight guys like lockett or rubio to retain that...
and amidst all of this, abraham is still light years better than the likes of gary lockett and marco antonio rubio. pavlik should be ashamed of...
you're talking about a fabrication of a corrupted sanctioning body. i'm talking about the lineal championship. there is no mandatory for a lineal...
abraham had already established himself as pavlik's top contender ever since pavlik defeated taylor. the onus is on pavlik, the champion, to...
