I'm not sure how it's a "gotcha" either...because it's not. It's a statement made in a boxing discussion. The first two were other examples of...
Respectfully -- and I share your disappointment at recitations of strings of context-free stats -- I think he's double counting. As you pointed...
It is a bit curious. Foreman is also slow, he also looks crude, he demonstrably has bad stamina (unlike Marciano), and Foreman's career trajectory...
I think he's double counting some people.
I was probably snarkier than I should've been, quite honestly. But just because a guy can absorb punches really well, it doesn't mean that the...
Tex Cobb could survive punches even better than Ali. So he beats Louis too, right?
Ellis and Stribling were other examples of 185-90ish guys who weighed in at middleweight or lower in their younger days, IIRC. Patterson was...
Well, we know he wasn't good enough by 1969 to survive the younger cohort of contenders. He only had two (attempted) defenses during his reign,...
You see other striking sports that play a lot with distance bouncing; karate and taekwondo. Or at least you used to, I don't know what modern TKD...
Really good contender; never quite became "The Man." Roughly around Ken Norton's greatness level.
Marciano was, but is no longer, and has not been for a long time. Marciano's legacy still is, though.
They mostly fought in the war. The first cohorts of Hitler Youth were a little too busy getting drafted, starving and getting shot in Volkssturm...
I think so, for a couple reasons. Germany was smaller prewar than the Soviet Union, but "pretty small" is a relative term when you're talking...
To be fair, it's not much different from my asking a long time ago about what would've happened to boxing if there was no WW2, and the force-fed...
He's still a big favorite, right now, in this forum of people who know that he lost their real fight...
