good points ironchamp, but on the other hand, holmes beating ali didn't really do much for him, and if he had still gone on to have the career he...
he was great, but not the kind of guy i'd spend hours watching. for me, amateur fighting is about scoring points, with more emphasis on head shots...
fair enough. what can i say, the guy had a remarkable career. from what i've read of the gans win, though, gans took him lightly. still a good...
agree with all of this. much prefer watching him as an amateur. joy to watch under those conditions.
walcott beats sixties ali, but loses to seventies ali.
all true. i would say that i think greb has the better case. he had that year when he was untouchable. i put a lot of weight on that kind of...
a fading ali against walcott would have been quite the fight.
so, when you factor in his achievements, which are at least comparable to everyone else's, and were compiled fighting in a particular way - the...
it's the reason he transcended the sport. he did so because of how he fought. people went to see him because they wanted to see the...
none of those fighters transcended the sport for the reasons robinson did. ali - politics. pacquiao - nationality. leonard - hype. tyson -...
achievements certainly can describe ability. langford may have had the greater chin and greater power, but a few had that on robinson. robinson...
mcgrain, if you want to construct a scientific list, yours is the way to do it. for me, though, while i enjoy ranking achievements as...
even if you don't think ali has a case for goat based on his actual resume, a win against holmes would surely have put him firmly in the...
orriray59, please don't bring the thread into disrepute.
ok, well whenever. for now: 1. ali 2. louis 3. holmes 4. foreman 5. marciano 6. holyfield 7. tyson 8. lewis 9. frazier 10. liston
