"let's pretend boxing in the 40s wasn't racist against black men" I concede that you are way more racially sensitive than I am. I have always...
Two points--this thread is about Zale, but much of the argument seems to be against Lesnevich as it easier to make a case concerning Charles and...
"why didn't he get a titleshot in 46?" probably because of the draw with Jimmy Edgar, while Graziano was impressively KO'ing Marty Servo. "he...
"Zale missed out in 1941-1942 on 4 top rated future Hall-of-Famers Burley, Charles, Moore, and Williams" Are you familiar with the 1941 ratings?...
It might not be "right" by some people's lights, but it is very understandable that Zale, after losing four years of prime earning potential to...
Show me the ratings for July, 1940 which prove McAvoy had dropped out of the ratings.
what light-heavyweight had beaten Mills in the interim.
Mills beat McAvoy twice, in 1940 and 1942.
Over the long run, but prior to WWII? Zale lost to Soose. Okay. Soose lost to Burley and Bivins. He also lost 3 times to Abrams. But Soose...
"McAvoy wasn't rated when Mills beat him" McAvoy was rated #4 in the 1939 ratings. He had been rated every year since 1935. He won two fights...
"Kid Tunero" Tunero got two title fights against Marcel Thil and lost them both. Tunero raises an interesting question. How good were the...
Okay, I misunderstood you. Sorry. I rate LaMotta ahead on chin off the evidence, but I doubt that chin would decide this one as neither is...
"He stopped training as hard" What kind of excuse is this supposed to be? It also raises the question of if you do decide to train hard can you...
I would rate Fullmer superior in 1----mobility 2----stamina Many credit LaMotta with a strength edge, but I have my doubts. He mainly lost at...
"one with a better chin" Possibly, but Basilio was never even off his feet until he was 34. LaMotta didn't fight to that age. It is interesting...
