The most relevant thing of all is Jones beat Hopkins easily at 160, and Hopkins lost to the only great contemporary middleweight he faced. Simple.
Jones at 160 beats any middleweight Hopkins (and plenty of other great middles) in my opinion. I don't care how long they were both there. It's...
I bring up the Toney win because it's more relevant than Hopkins - Jones 2, I bring up the second Hopkins fight because many people seem to use it...
Trinidad had fought once at middleweight and beat a decent champion in Joppy. A past his best guy with one fight at middleweight however, this is...
Fair enough, it is hard to compare eras.
There have been worse heavyweight chins that Wilder's, give him the benefit of the doubt and say he survives until the 2nd.
Haw far from peak is a 28 year old, really? Jones wasn't prime either if we're going to say that, yet he still beat Hopkins at Hopkins best...
When people suggest a fantasy fight they usually specify 'prime for prime', choosing Fighter A at their best against fighter B at their best. It...
So what was Hopkins best win during this supposed 10 year prime? Joppy? Trinidad? Hopkins beats those at any point in his career. Hopkins lost...
Not Bingo.. Jones wasn't there for long, he still proved he was a better middle than Hopkins.
I don't really get why we have to say 'head to head' Jones was better. Based on easily beating Hopkins * at 160*, as well as whitewashing Toney...
He got big acclaim for beating Trinidad and Oscar. Guys he'd have beaten whenever - he always loses to prime Roy. When exactly was Hopkins prime?...
I'll add that when I say I don't rate Hopkins, I mean I don't put him anywhere near top 5. I think he's top 20 which still makes it a great win...
Cool. Fair enough. I chose Jones because of how he looked at 160 even though he wasn't there long. He beat some very good fighters there and...
I guess. Just who do you think would win the most if they all fought each other a few times.