"I thought you were pretty clear that Jack Kearns (who didn't even manage Dempsey in 1915) was spreading that information." I will clarify. I...
More fantastic info. Thanks for posting. So a fight between Dempsey and Battling Billy Johnson would supposedly have been at lightweight!
Okay. So you think Battling Billy Johnson and Dempsey probably didn't fight. This is getting more interesting. Senya has such great research...
Tremendous information. Thanks for posting this. So the "Battling Johnson" active in Salt Lake City was Battling Billy Johnson. So my issue of...
It was interesting reading this thread. The difference to me is that Louis was active defending his title against top contenders. He defended...
Fair enough criticism of my point. "Establishment" is not a precise term. And perhaps it would be better to say the powers that be, led by...
on the original question, Harry Wills, Harry Greb, Kid Norfolk (1920 & early 1921) George Godfrey (1925) Jack Renault (1924) In fairness to...
Where is the evidence anyone was doing research on Dempsey's early career? If they were, why would they confuse a Jim Johnson fighting in the...
You are correct and I am wrong. There is a fight listed with a Jim Johnson on 1/1/1915 for Dempsey in Salt Lake City. The contender Battling...
Could you list the date and place of this fight? Neither box rec, nor the cyberboxing zone, nor Wikipedia list any fight anywhere at anytime with...
Just on Kearns being ruthless. This is from a column by Robert Edgren in the SF Chronicle on 6-10-1923, "Dempsey has knocked out 25 of his...
Well,we just disagree. You assume Wills was in a position of weakness because of the Tate "draw" but he in fact won the poll that spring to...
This long post is a preview of the first 1922 fight between Wills and Tate and has nothing to do with the second "fight" five days later for which...
My post was about Harry Wills. It wasn't about you, although I see Suzie was responding to you. My response was more directed to Janitor and...
"It's like because Wills beat him so badly, you feel the need to downgrade Norfolk" That is how it strikes me also. I get the impression that...