"his lead up to it was pedestrian" Louis, Layne, Matthews, Savold, LaStarza. I think it matches most, actually. "there was a crater in talent...
"How many future Hall of Famers did Rocky fight when they were in their 20's?" How many did Tunney? I think only Greb and he lost to him.
I think this is a bottom line. How good was Dempsey at any point? How good was he in 1926 after a three year layoff? The hype on Dempsey leaks...
"Dempsey, Tunney, Greb . . . the top-rated men from heavyweight to middleweight in 1925 may have run the table with Rocky's comp." Unfortunately,...
"Gene Tunney was the world heavyweight champion" Yes, but Harry Greb was the middleweight champion. So Tunney is fighting the middleweight...
box rec lists him as 79-1-4 with 1 NC.
That is not the way heavyweight boxing works. Marciano fought as a heavyweight generally against heavyweights. Sugar Ray Robinson and Willie Pep...
"Do you really see a big difference between LaStarza and Lowry over Greb, Loughran, Levinsky, and Gibbons." Yes. You are comparing men Marciano...
I don't disagree with you that Tunney faced good opposition, even if he missed quite a few guys. But of your list, he lost to Greb once, and...
Louis and Walcott weren't skilled? Whatever. "Ted Lowry" "LaStarza" Lowry was a hugely experienced fighter at a point in which Marciano was...
Savold ended up in the hospital. Don C helpless. Both lost every round or almost every round. If this is your "off night" you must really be...
"solid sluggers like Dempsey, Risko, Heeney, Greb" Only Dempsey of this group is much of a puncher. I don't follow that Tunney fought anything...
49-0 is actually winning all 49 fights. Tunney didn't win 5 of his fights in the color line era. "Marciano couldn't survive 85 training camps"...
"Tunney was bigger than Marciano" Don't see the point when we are talking about their opposition. Tunney fought one fight against a fighter...
"Tunney engaged in 14 fights with Hall of Famers" I am never impressed with using "Hall-of-Famer" to prove anything, for if we take another sport...
