Agreed. Gomez was probably the greater all-around talent, but Ortiz's superior toughness/resilience and deeper resume leads me to rate him over...
That's not accurate - Coetzee won the title in September '83, Holmes gave up his title in December, and then signed for a June '84 match vs....
Not it wasn't. Holmes was still recognized by the WBC as champ for the Frazier fight - the WBC just refused to acknowledge the fight as a title...
No, there's also THE LAW - or else we're back to fighting in barroom cellars and barges in the middle of the Pacific, like in the bareknuckles...
Jose Torres rated him #1.
YES!!!!!!!!!! I've ALWAYS wanted to see this fight!! Thank YOU!!!! :good One of the best fighters in any weight class to never win a world...
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Agreed. He was like a cross between Jake LaMotta and Riccardo Lopez.
Valdez was either the #1 or 2 contender from late '53 through early '55, decisively beat Charles, KO'd top 5 rated Heinz Neuheus, and won a...
It was a thread about Darcy? - not that thread about Arthur Mercante, in which a mysterious poster who was a big fan of Ron Lipton stirred up a...
So YOU'RE to blame, then? :-( (j/k! :good )
Those fights were before the whole WBC/Page/Coetzee incident - and if you want to criticize him for his actions during that stretch, I won't argue...
:lol::rofl I know how you feel, it happens to me every fkkn time! Recently, there was a batch of fights I had been putting off getting for...
He did - about 30 years later. :D In all seriousness, this would be my biggest criticism of him right here. I would've absolutely loved to see a...
:lol: I was surprised by that as well, especially given that he voted Benitez as "best boxer." To be fair though, Mayweather Sr. was a pretty...
