How is a 24 year old fighter overrated? How can you overrate someone who's not been rated yet
Judah was shot Clottey, arguably beat him Berto also beat Quintana He was pushed very hard by the same Mosely who a shot Mayorga very nearly...
Again, every time you get stumped it's:patsch or:lol: Cotto and Mosely was a very tight fight As was Mosely and Mayorga in his very next fight
Your article isn't even accurate 11 of Ortiz's 29 fights have been in the Welter division Does your boxrec view not have weights on it?
I'd say creating 11 anti Mayweather threads in a day is pretty desperate Or, just a guy who's not taking the news too well
I never get this argument Manny fought the legimitate welters from 2006. And only because, being in their 30s, they were old, losing, and big...
So what's Manny exactly? Only facing guys coming off losses. Most of them to Mayweather Is he a hype rat? Picking up the scraps after...
You know, in the real world Berto was probably about PFP 12-15 when Ortiz beat him up. Probably PFP 10 with another big win. C grade............haha
Manny should just retire then..............He hasn't fought anyone above C grade for years, by your formulae
you are the only person calling berto c as you're a child who wants to disrespect a mayweather opponent in any nasty, cheap way you can
Can you stop pretending this is based on logic Ortiz was a B in your head yesterday. So was Berto The only reason you're writing threads on how...
Show me something to show Josh CLottey is any good Other than losing almost every title fight he's ever had
Where do you guys get this He was pulled out by a medic.............?
Arguing Cotto was much better than a 37 year old Mosely who should have lost to Mayorga in his very next fight, is an excerxise in futility
Quintana, Collazo, Urango, Forbes