I'm not an Ali fan, but I really respect him for how he has handled his illness. He issued a quote saying something like: ' I have no complaints....
Ali and Folley were best friends, both before and after the fight. Ali wanted to give Folley a payday.
I don't KNOW what happened in those fights, but I can make an educated guess. Liston went into the first fight with a bad shoulder. He had...
Senor Pepe and Il Duce are the same person. Frankenfrank is a different person.
If Johansson had won that third fight, Liston would never have been champion. Ingo avoided Liston at all costs.
Patterson- A phony champion. Dodged the top contenders. Couldn't stay on his feet. Ali- Good fighter with a loud obnoxious mouth.
I don't agree that those two fights proved a lack of mental toughness. I believe Liston had pressures on him regarding those two fights we'll...
A real Ali-Liston fight would be interesting to watch.
I don't know anything about Burns. I wouldn't give him Tunney. Patterson belongs in a Butterbean thread. There could be some honest debate.
Ali listed Walcott, Charles and Marciano as the three fighters who might have beat him on his best day.
Can anyone think of an ATG that Patterson could beat? I can't think of a single one I would bet on Patterson beating.
Ali's mouth.
Liston had a bad shoulder (bursitis), before the Clay fight and tried to get the fight postponed. I don't think it was a persistent problem with...
I'm not sure that was a true picture of Liston. Liston did not train for the 1st Clay fight. He did not take Clay seriously. His handlers had...
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