There is every indication that a FOTC Joe would have done better than the '76, out of shape, worn out Joe utilizing the '76 tactics. Of course...
Agree. This Joe was just not in the condition to fight especially because of the bad vision and coming off the Manilla war. Surprising that Joe...
Joe was really just too damaged from all his ring wars for the second Foreman fight. He was not in the best of shape being so heavy and tended to...
Interesting that Frazier was not in his best condition in either Foreman fight. Joe did much better the second time but was too heavy, not in his...
Hell with this 60's or 70's Ali thing. Ali just plain wins this.
Good points, especially about the Cummings bout.
Just writing: "Ali LOST to HOLMES! Ali LOST to BERBICK!" Discredits any argument.
Look at Shavers, Lyle, Frazier, Foreman, Norton etc..... everyone was trying to beat Ali. He was the man to beat. Ali beat them all. I believe...
I agree. George seemed like he wasn't interested and didn't want to hurt Morrison. He even mentioned it in his book. That was annoying. Go get...
Holmes would have lost in 1986. The 1980-82 Holmes would have outboxed Tyson and won a decision. Even in '88 Holmes somewhat frustrated Tyson...
Foreman's chin didn't get worse in his 40's. Also, George was stronger in his 40's but too heavy. He was obviously much slower being that much...
I agree.
Correct.
As a pro, how many fighters put Joe on the floor? Frazier was green in the first Bonavena fight. Mentioning Joe's knees buckling a few times...
Frazier was in no trouble at all vrs. Stander. Frazier was slightly staggered against Bugner and Ali but so what? This doesn't make for a bad...
