Thanks for doing all the hard work setting the welters up. Comments-- 1930's--no surprises. I wonder how Henry Armstrong will do with his...
Thanks for the explanation. Not surprisingly for an old guy, I had forgotten that. But I do think my point stands that his military service in...
Thanks again for all your hard work. I am still studying the welterweights, but an initial question did pop up for me. Robinson is on the boxrec...
"Never said Ingo wasn't above Williams." Not certain I would have guessed this prior to this post, but glad your backing off a bit on trashing Ingo.
Fair enough.
"Miteff was rated top 10" Okay, and how does he compare to Heinz Neuhaus and Joe Erskine, who were "unrated" and therefore nothing much according...
"the Miteff ranking is beyond a complete mystery to me" I think I know but have no proof. He was a guy who appeared on TV quite a bit. There...
Well, discounting Johansson completely, the three best heavyweights other than Liston between 1958 and 1965 were Ali, Patterson, and Terrell....
I don't think I'm "bigging" Ingo up. He in fact became world champion by knocking out the #1 contender and then the world champion. Who else...
He would be an undefeated European champion. There would be no proof that he stacked up with the best. But no proof that he couldn't. Sort of...
You still seem hung up on if Liston is better h2h and has a deeper resume, Ingo is some sort of nothing. I am not disputing that Liston is the...
"I'd add Tunney to that list" Except Tunney didn't defeat Tommy Gavigan. He fought a draw with him. Ingo's early retirement certainly helped...
What is the evidence Williams or Valdes were really bigger punchers than Machen? But you can point out that Machen never hit Ingo because he got...
I thought I said I favor Liston. "Ingo can't take a big punch" He didn't have an iron jaw. That is for certain. But Ingo was only KO'd by a...
"I see Liston as being by far the superior fighter" So do I. "how can you not be impressed by what Johansson did to Machen" and Patterson. It...
