That helped Pastrano, but Johnson was one of those guys who fought well when older. I am certainly not saying that overall Pastrano matches...
I agree that there is no reason for Machen, the #1, to have had to fight Folley, the #2. As for Harris, he was in military training, so he...
Going into 1958, Machen deserved the shot and should not have had to fight Folley or Harris. After drawing with Folley, Machen was damaged goods,...
I think this question about the #1 and #2 men fighting to a draw is not clear cut. The closest analogy I can think of is college football. If...
"But Pastrano above Valdes? I think not." But Pastrano lost to Harris. And Pastrano was rated above Valdes when Harris defeated him. The...
"In 58, Folley beat world title challenger Rademacher and Joe Bygraves." Is this satire? Rademacher had never won a pro fight. Bygraves is...
And neither London nor Erskine defeated Harris. Baker and Powell defeated Valdes, and Harris beat Baker and Powell.
They didn't win in the ring either. In some abstract way you can argue they should get a shot, but it makes it harder to sell a fight with the...
"Sonny Liston wasn't my cup of tea" And whose cup of tea was he? Folley? Valdes?
The victories you point to for Valdes were years earlier. He wasn't actually rated in 1956 while Pastrano was the #4 contender. I repeat that...
I notice with you it is always what happened didn't really happen. They fought to a desultory draw. The official cards 116-117 115-115 117-115...
Is the full 10 rounds available anywhere? I will be glad to watch it. The versions I have seen have been cut but don't point to Folley being the...
"London beat a washed up Folley in 1968" Actually 1967, I think. London was more or less washed up himself. "really had to bring that up?"...
Maybe if he had been fighting better opposition right along he wouldn't have gone close enough to lose the decision to the then 16-7-1 Cooper.
You hit the nail on the head.
