"Archie Moore wasn't the heavyweight champion of anything." I think you are wrong about this. I believe the fight with Valdes in 1955 was billed...
A fair enough position.
Actually, this is a pretty good post. *the problem is that you are focusing on Moore not being able to beat great fighters like Charles in their...
"Beating Nino Valdes and Bob Baker doesn't get you there." I agree, in and of itself. But the whole career might be a different matter.
"Beating a "green" Ali is certainly better than getting stopped in four by a green Ali." Name the guy who actually beat a green Ali. Jack Taylor...
"It's not like Jack Taylor had Larry Gains' career." Exactly. But he still beat Schmeling about the same time. "Don't be a jerk." Let's keep...
Well, the Schmeling of 1925 was not Ali. Ali was an Olympic champion. Ali wasn't losing to guys like Jack Taylor. As for Berbick, you are now...
I didn't say or imply you didn't. What I said is that I have watched the film and I thought Maxim won.
Ali was already a top contender. Schmeling was in a DNA sense the same man. In a boxing sense, I don't think so. How important was Jack...
I have seen the film, and I thought Maxim won. So did all three judges, and the TV commentator, Tommy Loughran. It was a competitive fight,...
My take is that Jeff cleaned out the division through 1902, but by 1903 there was Johnson and Jeff didn't defend against him. So I wouldn't say...
"Gains fought future heavyweight champs when they were younger, and he won." Schmeling was certainly younger. He was still 19, and coming off a...
"Johnson . . . beat the same guys at heavyweight Archie Moore did." Well, really, Johnson has a better heavyweight resume. He beat Bivins,...
Yes, Moore didn't fight Harold Johnson or Joey Maxim at heavyweight, but then again he didn't lose to Ezzard Charles at heavyweight either. You...
Just a point. However good one judges Wills' and his resume does not add anything to Dempsey's status. Wills was the top contender. Dempsey...
