Do you think we should count Ali's losses to Trevor Berbick and Holmes the same way we do Archie Moore's losses to Marciano and Patterson? If you...
No, I disagree. It's not nebulous at all to say that a guy, even if he may not be as good as a certain set of opposition, would still pose a...
Louis fought four different ranked opponents who weighed over 230 pounds. I don't believe Jeffries ever beat anyone who weighed over 200 pounds-...
Yes, that's pretty ridiculous. Frankly, Ali's record after his first 15 fights or so is a virtual who's-who of name fighters from the '60s and '70s.
No, I don't think he's in the top 5-6 head-to-head. You can be a "threat to anyone" without actually being the best. There are guys I would make...
I agree with literally everything in this post, with the one slight exception that I do think there's a legitimate case for putting Lewis ahead of...
He was a contender. He just wasn't a very good contender. He's one of those guys you look at on a list of ranked contenders and say,...
To expand on my position in this thread a little more, I'm not trying to argue that it's ridiculous to have Lewis in the top 10. Certainly he was...
"Months before" is misleading. Only one of those fights was (barely) within a year of fighting Liston. He had lost two of three fights in the last...
I don't believe boxing register is entirely accurate. I've seen instances in which it seems to be wrong. For example, it lists Tommy Gomez as...
The question is not about age, it's about the relative stage of the fighter's career. Again, champions should be ranked mainly on fights which...
ARGH. Still more of the incredibly frustrating reasoning which completely ignores pretty much anything other than what one can see on boxrec.com....
Thank ye. Those are what are called drummed-up, cheap excuses. 1. Old age does not apply, because Lewis was clearly still in his prime. His last...
Valdes had lost two of his last three against Charley Powell and Alonzo Johnson when he fought Liston. I Don't believe he was still considered a...