Yes…unless you consider the 2nd fight that was recorded by someone from the stands watchable footage.
@InMemoryofJakeLamotta First question - have you seen all the obvious ones? There are a few lesser known gems I could recommend but there are...
What do you think about Duran’s placement p4p all-time if he retires after Leonard 1? He makes most top 10s already even with his yo-yo...
Hardly fair on Inoue putting him in with Gomez after only one fight at 122lbs…
Yep, Cervantes for me. I think he was just better all-round than Tszyu. He could also easily be considered the greatest junior welterweight ever....
Yep, completely agree with you. Mayweather’s work ethic was exceptional and highly unusual for a guy who already had more money and titles than he...
Making it more popular - I agree but evolve? I don’t think May evolved anything. He didn’t invent a new style, he just brought something back that...
The other thing about that view of linear progression is that it feels like there are plenty of people using that argument who haven’t any spent...
He more than likely wouldn’t be a champion of any sort.
As a general point, I agree with him. I presume he’s excluding himself in that analysis, though?
I started another thread asking how much the influence a fighter had on the sport should impact their ranking when it comes to greatness:...
Top notch posts both.
I think he moved the dial on further but Ray Leonard probably started that off in the 80s so Oscar benefited a bit from that.
I’m thinking of the following fighters here: Jack Johnson Jack Dempsey Muhammad Ali Ali is consensus no. 1 all-time at heavyweight and makes...
Actually, I should definitely add Wilfredo Gomez at 122. He never lost. Only blemish during those years was against Sanchez but that was at 126....
