At the end of the day a fight with Fury would be far more relevant if Usyk had a much deeper heavyweight resume and both were younger and closer...
Harold Johnson George Chuvalo Nino Valdes (prime version not faded guy Liston fought) Doug Jones Bob Cleroux Ingemar Johansson Ernie Terrell among...
Liston missed out on a lot of top contenders. I think we need to have a higher baseline in terms of ranked contenders beaten before we call...
Wins are also rated within the context of their own times. In 2020 the heavyweight division had Fury Hrgovic Zhang Joyce Wilder Usyk Parker...
His cruiserweight accomplishments don't have any bearing on how he rates at heavyweight. Adamek was undisputed cruiserweight champion and nobody...
Favoring Shavers over Usyk is insanity. Usyk would have to be a massive favorite. Were talking about a guy who lost to Bob Stallings and...
A lot of the reasoning being used doesn't even make sense. If Fury beating Klitschko is proof of greatness in Fury then wouldn't the same be true...
His cruiserweight accomplishments are irrelevant. At heavy he has Joshua and little else. How can he beat 1 top 10 heavy and suddenly be the...
Usyk has beaten one top 10 heavyweight in Anthony Joshua. At this stage beating him has virtually no historical significance at all. If he...
Fury couldn't fight Usyk earlier than 2024 at this point so yeah his recent work is more important than what he did nearly a decade ago....
Not recently he doesn't. Zhang beat Joyce in April 2023. That sure beats anything Fury did in 2022 or 2023. Also neither have been given the...
We don't rank people on what they hypothetically could do. Fury has a terribly thin resume and hasn't fought most of the top contenders of his...
Fury would have proved himself a generational talent by cleaning out the division like Lennox Lewis did. He hasn't done so. We don't get to...
People become great by beating their contemporaries. If Usyk beats Fury he's beating a guy who conveniently failed to beat Joshua, Joyce, Zhang,...
There's a lot of skilled guys some of whom are being ducked and denied opportunities. Why are we to assume either man beats Zhang, Hrgovic,...
