Well, that quote is from page 217 of Adam Pollack's biography. As Adam footnotes his works, the quote comes from the New York Journal, June 12,...
You are back to the "natural middleweight" but that 170 might be his weight with dehydration and the lowest weight he could reach even with...
I think it important to point out that these fighters were dehydrated to begin with. The theory at the time was to get weight as low as possible....
Actually photos do show growth. See FranklinDallas post above. "Moore and Fitz are two different people." Thanks for that insight. But both...
Johnson as the best heavyweight. Jeffries for having the best title reign.
First thing--the quote from Fleischer was aimed at rickdanahuff basically to elicit his point of view. I was wondering what his response would be...
"his genetics never allowed never allowed him to gain weight" I don't think anyone knows his "genetics" off the spotty weight evidence which has...
Have to know if Davis actually saw Fitz adjust the steel balances up close or just saw Fitz step on a scale, adjust the balances himself, and...
"true top notch heavyweight competition" and which champions prior to perhaps Louis pass this test? This thread is comparing him to Dempsey, not...
You compare Fitz to middleweights, but Fitz's size at the time he fought Jeff is in dispute. They did not weigh in for heavyweight fights in that...
Well, Fitz was an oddly built guy considered very muscular in his upper torso due to his work as a blacksmith. He had thin legs. "He was not a...
I just find your Jeff-Johnson-Willard-Dempsey line of logic unconvincing. Johnson was an active 32 when he fought the long laid off Jeff who was...
Most of the fighters any champion faced prior to 1960 would not be in the modern heavyweight division. But they were in the heavyweight division...
I think this is a fair judgment.
Well, you strongly laid out your case. "You quoted Fleischer, well it was Fleischer who stated Jeffries retired to avoid the black challengers!"...
