Most people consider an era to be a period longer than 20 months. Tysons period of dominance prior to the arrival of Holyfield seems too brief to...
[QUOTE="Redbeard7, post: 22001676, I don't think Usyk is even Furys biggest threat frankly. He just doesn't seem like a good stylistic matchup....
I don't consider the Holyfield losses to be past prime because other fighters don't get excuses for losses at that stage in their career so no...
But the fight absolutely is counted against him legacy wise. Fans don't just throw it out as irrelevant like you seem to want to do regarding...
Also even if we try to use the past prime argument the fact that Holyfield was older than Tyson and seemingly farther past his best doesn't bode...
He was absolutely in his physical prime at age 29 in 1996. If we are going to give Tyson a pass for losing to Holyfield at such a tender young...
He was still in his prime or very close to it in his fights with Holyfield who has older and had taken far more punishment. Those fights count...
Tyson was from the same era as Lewis and Holyfield and is 0-3 against them. If he wanted to go down as one of the greats he would need to beat...
The talk about Fury being the best until proven otherwise seems pretty pointless given how infrequently he fights and how frequently he takes...
Longevity is a big part of dominance and Tyson only dominated the division from around November 1986 to June 1988. That's a pretty short amount...
Whyte is likely still top 10 so a decent win for Fury but I don't think he is among the divisions best. He got kayoed by a totally shot Povetkin...
Bryant Jennings got knocked out by Oscar Rivas and the same people hyping Ortiz don't seem to rate Rivas or feel the perceived top guys have any...
Luis Ortiz is really unproven. I get that some people rate him highly but he has very very little in terms of impressive wins. Its difficult for...
I don't see how beating Wilder can be in any way said to cement Furys place as the best given Wilder has failed to fight other top heavyweights...
I don't see how keeping him out of the top 10 is unreasonable given how briefly he was on top He was clearly considered the best heavyweight in...
