You can pick any of his other clutch of one punch KOs if you like. I simply picked Etienne as it was his most recent. That's my problem, though:...
Good post, and one I can't really argue much against. One question though: what exactly do you mean when you say Shavers has more "raw power"? Do...
He did it though, and more than once. Not to the same extent as Jackson, but the Hawk was a truly exceptional puncher, well worthy of his fearsome...
I'd say it starts to become meaningless when it ceases to have any firm connection with observable results. What someone says about your power...
Throughout this thread there has been the assumption on the part of the Shavers brigade that Shavers wasn't skilled enough to consistently land...
Were the circumstances that different in the Holmes fights? Not that I could see. You mention Tyson doing "tons of damage" to Holmes prior to the...
Yes, but your point was about how hard both men hit Holmes.
Ali was in better shape, moving, younger, less beat up. That's what you were praising Shavers for against Holmes, wasn't it?
Must have hit harder as well, by your criteria.
And Frazier's knockdown of a fresher, better and more mobile Ali was far better than anything Shavers did to him. So what does that prove?
He landed on lots of top fighters. His skills weren't nearly as crude as you want to make out. Here's a HL vid of Shavers vs Ali. [MEDIA] How...
It contradicts nothing. I've already made clear that I don't base punching power on any one thing but a combination of factors, of which resume...
Fair play. The man's entitled to his opinions, same as the rest of us.
I hope you mean on a P4P level, because objectively they weren't even in the same ballpark. It depends how you define success. I consider David...
Aaaaaand, we're back to the start again.
