Why does Gibbons have to go anywhere. If Jeff doesn't stop him, Gibbons loses by decision. As he did with Dempsey. I certainly think Fitz was...
I am not being facetious. Dempsey was above average in the 1920's. But why does this prove he would be above average in the 1970's, at least to...
Who was the best heavyweight that Gibbons ever beat and how much did he weigh? Whatever else, Jeff does on his training films show that he could...
Fair enough. As I said, I think it totally valid to compare his performance in his own era with that of others and where fair criticize. I am...
But this is just speculation, and perhaps odd speculation at that. Jeff couldn't beat Hart and Burns? How many who were there and saw these men...
On time though, no one is great from 1892 to the present day. I don't know of a boxer or anyone else who was even living over such a long period....
"So then you don't think that prime Joe Louis would have had any more success with Marciano than the old Joe Louis did." I never said anything...
"how did a fighter do in his time and at his weight class. IMO when a fighter dominated both, he is an atg." Excellent definition.
"I already defined all time great." And I posted because I found your definition lacking in precision and nuance.
"I consider someone an atg who would be great in every era." Do you mean great at heavyweight--the unlimited division? Because I would seriously...
You brought up Joe Louis. I favor the Joe Louis of 1951 to defeat Brennan, Carpentier, Gibbons, and even Firpo, although Firpo would be...
My point in that post was general, not applied to Jeffries individually. It is just my view on what makes an all time great. Your criticism of...
On "prime" Meaningless term. First place, why was Gibbons "prime" in 1923? He defeated Greb in 1920, but lost to him badly in 1922. Isn't this...
Well, what exactly does "all time great" mean. Let's look at a couple of athlete's from other sports. The runner Paavo Nurmi won 9 gold medals...
