on the original question I think Walcott, Charles, and Moore outpoint Jeffries. Boxing had just come a very long ways since the 1890's....
"Sharkey was considered the Marciano of his times" By whom? Marciano was still fifty years in the future. It would be an interesting question...
"Jeffries seems to have improved after this." He only fought a 37 year old Corbett who had laid off three years, and the mediocre Munroe, who...
Just on the point of non-competitive Olympians, several American posters have pointed out for years on this board that boxing is more or less...
Comments The Vitali thing is over my head. I will let it to those more into and understanding of bureaucratic thinking. As no one beat the...
I thought hype came from hyperbole, which is exaggeration. Nothing was exaggerated about Ruth. The record for home runs was 27 in 1918, set in...
Good and justifiable list. A couple of questions. Why is Jack Johnson so low? And why not Jim Jeffries in the top fifteen? I am not...
Even if I concede that modern boxers are better, why would it be overrating anyone in 1963 to consider these men the best there had been. They...
The most often used and standard definition of boxing journeyman is this one-- "In boxing and mixed martial arts, a journeyman is a fighter who...
Just on words being misused even by educated folks, I just happened upon an example in a serious article I was reading. The author quoted another...
Jack Sharkey also regressed into something resembling a journeyman by the end of his career.
Very good point. Jersey Joe Walcott is another who was an actual journeyman who became a contender and then a champion.
Not to drive this into the ground, though I guess that is what I'm doing, But my actual complaint about Arcel is that this quote has no...
Armstrong won the welterweight title weighing 133, so I'm not certain he really moved down. Joey Maxim spent years fighting as a heavyweight,...
