Certainly true, and I think it possible or even probable that Dempsey would have handled the earlier champions with the possible exception of...
"What in the world are you talking about?" With Langford, that he did not see Louis, Marciano, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson,...
"most people who saw him fight were very impressed" Yes, but, Tex Rickard thought Jeffries was greater. Nat Fleischer thought Johnson,...
Well, it seems to elude you that Langford didn't see that many top heavyweights. You apparently dismiss Tunney's obvious bias and ego...
Did Wills later say he knew what was going on? or did someone at ringside just presume to know if he was conscious or not? And is that...
"Dempsey looked like an absolute world-beater" Not to me. I don't see an absolute world beater in the films of the fights with Brennan,...
Fair enough. My criticism would mainly be relying on quotes which I don't find a reliable source--unless the guy writes something down. A...
"Wills' eyes were open and he knew all that was going on" Doesn't follow. One can completely be out and have your eyes open. A good example in...
"Langford stated what he stated. To try to twist his words or infer he did not mean what he said without solid evidence is unsupported and false...
In my judgment, Sharkey is the only one Dempsey really did better with. Fulton--Dempsey went at his opponents at the opening bell. Wills might...
Okay, on Wills. If box rec is right, and I admit I went to box rec to refresh my memory of his record (and a guy as old as me better refresh his...
"or whether he actually even said the things quoted." I agree totally. Quotes are the poorest of all evidence. Not only might Langford...
Thanks for this. Shows the term goes back at least to Armstrong and before Robinson came along. One good thing about this board is that you...
Okay, You seem to know more about this than me, so I'm certain you are right. I was frankly going by the modern writers consistently saying the...
"read the fight reports" Wills was impressive in some fights. "you tube fights" In all of which he is at least 35 or older. "He...
