Where are people getting this notion that Foreman is the stronger man? Liston is only a few pounds lighter than 70s George with a more massive...
Lorenzo Zanon went 12 with a prime Holmes why is Shavers doing the same a big feat?
There isn't really anything to suggest Shavers was more durable than Patterson and certainly not more so than William's. This belief that Listons...
Again if you feel the Martin fight is an issue it seems fair to bring up Formemans fights with Ali Lyle and Young
Did Lyle not drop Foreman twice?
Against Lyle he was badly hurt and only barely escaped being kayoed
Look if were going to bring up Liston losing to Martin at 39 what about Foreman being stopped by Ali and dropped by Young and Lyle? Clearly 70s...
Why would Lewis be ahead of Wlad or AJ head to head?
If Frazier kept fighting into his 50s eventually a nobody would have knocked him out just depends on his rate of decline
Frazier stopped an old Machen not a prime version
The 1951 joe louis for example would have been heavily favored to tear through such opponents
None of these guys except possibly Clark was world class. We would need to see him against top contenders to see if he still had anything left
What does 90s foreman have to do with anything? Foreman beat frazier
Liston was shot against Martin how does that help your case? Quarry also lost to Eddie Machen who Liston beat.
Shavers would probably fight at cruiserweight anyway he would realize the heavies were way too big.
