I said the same level of competition, in other words all things being equal, I am just interested in your opinion--if scoring early...
May I ask you a question, If two men fight five 12 round fights against the same level competition, and one scores two first round KO's...
"why make the statement?" This is the statement, from my post #338 "My take is that he in these fights is a world better than guys like the 1959...
"lineal champs" I don't see what this has to do with anything. First place, at what point in the lineal champs career? He might not be...
LaMar Clark is brought up, but he didn't beat any good fighters at all. It is one thing to say Vitali didn't fight the toughest competition...
"Alben Belinski the only unbeaten fighter he faced up until he fought for Hide's WBO title." Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander....
I know of Logan because I am really old and saw him fight on TV. And I saw almost all the other American heavyweights from that era who make up...
"A bum." And what is George Logan who lost three fights to Tom McNeeley but was still a top ten fighter back then?
In a word, yes. Here are some of the fighters who were world class in Liston's time and their ranking in The Ring's yearly ratings. Roy Harris...
I guess being British and Commonwealth champion is nothing? Tyson and his knee? Every loser has an excuse. I didn't notice him limping or not...
"He was never world class and barely Euro level most times." That is not my issue. My issue is that Danny Williams would have been very world...
Okay. One problem is how punching power is defined. If two men have five fights each scheduled for 12 rounds. One stops 3 of his opponents in...
There are I'm certain some good criticisms being made against Vitali, but this is a bizarre one. Williams survives Tyson's punches and knocks...
"Lennox Lewis" My take is Liston is rather overrated, and I'm comparing him to Vitali, and accept that much of the criticism of Vitali's record...
"the huge size advantage that he often enjoys" So did Liston. But as I pointed out in an earlier thread, Vitali was actually outweighed...
