"writing in the Oregonian" Oregon was the boondocks in the 1920's I doubt very much if the folks back east either read their newspaper...
"European scene was so weak in the late 50's" I am somewhat confused with you taking this stand while defending Liston. The four highest...
As for Tate becoming a contender off the Wills "win" Certainly if he had blown Wills out with a one-round KO, although off his mediocre...
I personally couldn't disagree more. Tate "won" from Wills because Wills was DQ'd by the referee while he was knocking down Tate. That hardly...
This Tate bit is off the wall. Tate won on a first round DQ when Wills knocked him down off a break. That makes him a top contender? The...
Godfrey never fought Wills. I don't see what gap he could close. And by the way, Godfrey had beaten Tate prior to those 1922 fights, and...
"Cleveland Williams" Was not rated in The Ring yearly rankings prior to 1961, but that isn't really the whole story. You quote Bill Brennan's...
"Valdes" mid-fifties perhaps, but he didn't beat Johansson or Cooper who were the best of the Euro-heavies of the era. Considering...
"Tate is the real untold story here" Why? He lost all his fights as far as I can see to Norfolk and Godfrey. His record was around 50% wins...
Isn't this enough. Wills--generally viewed as the outstanding challenger. Norfolk--beat Miske in 1917 and 1919. Also beat Siki who...
Choklab--you can use "erratic fringe guys" as long as you're fair and use the same criteria for all champions. Dempsey opponents Here is the...
I would be interested in who folks think would have been rated of Dempsey's opponents when Dempsey fought them, of those he fought prior to...
I am not so certain I agree with the "erratic fringe guys" argument concerning Liston's opponents. Here are some of the rankings from the end of...
"Walker said he usually handled the bigger guys easier" I have heard the same said of Harry Greb by some who watched him fight.
