How do you figure lineage shows Patternson younger than Tyson? Tyson was 20 years 145 days when he won the WBC (NYSAC) title. He was 21 years...
No, I recognize lineage and therefore I recognize that Tyson is a younger champion than Patterson because he won the same titles Patterson won...
When thinking lineally, I go by the WBC/WBA, because they did all of the reconciliation work decades ago. Therefore there's no need to go by press...
There's no need for me to recognize it, because the NBA/NYSAC recognized the press-acknowledged champions, and in turn, they became the official...
Jack Johnson *is* a world champ. I never said otherwise. It's about the underlying history behind the titles. If it were up to me, I would just...
I know how the old state sanctioning bodies and newpapers originally chose to recognize their champs. That's not how it works anymore at the...
If it's a state title, it's not a world title. And the NYSAC title actually ended up becoming part of the WBC, as did a number of local...
The IBHOF, which is the official record keeping organization of boxing recognizes the WBO and not the IBO as an official organization against...
The predecessor organization to the WBA is the NBA, which goes back to the 1920s. Anything before that is already widely understood to be the...
Off-topic - this is a great discussion we're all having. Just thought I'd mention that. Not sure if this is typical of the Classic forum, since...
You might not recognize them, but again, being objective, it doesn't matter if *you* personally recognize them. According to the IBHOF, the...
The problem is your introducing an arbitrary element to the entire thing. When you say Ernie Terrell was not taken seriously - by who? "Many...
I think the best and fairest way is to get rid of theoretical lineage and go with what the IBHOF says is the definition of a champion - anyone who...
