Have a huge number of posts from this thread been deleted? I recall it being quite a few more pages than this.
No he didn't. He had the power to knock him down, gas, and get clobbered, as happened in almost all his big fights.
The only people who badly hurt him were huge punchers with insane knockout percentages. I don't think that reflects too badly on him, do you?
Firstly Wlad respects Max, so it's unlikely he's going to go full ****** on him, even were that in him anymore (I think the Mormeck fight told us...
By some. Underrated by a hell of a lot more.
The myth of Shavers's ability to stop top fighters is still going strong, I see.
Good, heavy handed slugger with a bit of craft. Patient but persistent in attack, mixed it up well to body and head, solid chin and decent head...
No, I agree with your general point (erroneous position results in erroneous counter position). Biggest case of this I've seen is fans either...
What less than impressive punches? And from whom? And how many times did he go down from those shots?
Losing to a mediocre fighter means that you'll never be able to beat an historically more well regarded one, despite proving the ability to...
Who said he had one of the most proven chins in HW history? He has a very well proven chin against a large number of heavy hitters. That's...
John Ruiz?
"Greatest" is a wooly adjective that can mean any number of things. Head to head though, both men have a very good argument, Lewis especially.
Possibly, possibly not. Lewis proved his chin against a heavier breed of hitters than Liston, and never dropped from a shot like the one Ali...
No, quite underrated actually, especially compared to some of the stalwarts of the boxing landscape.