"Cubans or Latin Americans" One. Godoy. However, how many top contenders (defined by top five) were there in the 1940's and early 1950's from...
Also, the Marciano-LaStarza bout had already been signed before Valdes fought Charles. And prior to fighting Charles, Valdes had not been rated...
"arguably lesser men" Folks in 1954 didn't judge Charles a lesser man, I think. If he were the lesser man, Valdes would have fought him in the...
I think it reasonable to think Valdes should have gotten the shot over Don C. I find it a bit of a stretch to think he should have gotten the...
"None of your speculation is in my post." Sorry. I am getting old and in my mind might have merged your argument with the similar ones he...
*By the way, Weill lobbied for Baker in 1955--a man as big as Valdes who had defeated Valdes once and would again--over Moore. Moore simply had...
"plain and simple" Not to me. It does seem plain and simple to me that if Valdes was the better fighter, he should have simply taken the...
"skilled" Valdez wasn't particularly skilled. Not only little guys like Moore, Johnson, and Satterfield handled him, but the more skilled big...
"Charles lost to Valdez, lost to Johnson, was rocked by Satterfield" Valdes did upset Charles with Charles probably looking ahead to the very...
"the worn down Charles" "bigger, younger, stronger Valdez" Then why didn't the Valdes camp simply take the Charles rematch with the winner to...
"significantly younger than both Walcott and Moore" That didn't help him defeat Moore. Moore also remained a ranked heavyweight contender, and...
"2+3=5" I have no dog in this hunt, but what I love about this board is the amount of new information one picks up. It is always good to expand...
I have read the London Times coverage of this fight, and if memory doesn't fail, there was no mention of any of this controversy. I was wondering...
"You never mentioned Johnson-Sonny in the early '60's?" "You" Well, I didn't, but actually there was plenty of talk of a Liston-Johnson fight...
"could he have beaten the Dempsey that Tunney beat first time?" In a 45 round fight? I think definitely. But then most champions I think...
