I agree on the greenies. And of the others, I think, as I have posted, that Hamas should be a lock with a fine overall record and a big win over...
What makes a thread like this fun is that there is so much to disagree on. I see Hamas as about the strongest non-champion candidate from the...
"Feel free to bash or replace" I will take the liberty to consider this as applying to your entire list. Out--Gibbons--He was a light...
I saw him fight and lose to Mike DeJohn on TV. Could box and punch a little and had a good chin, but was slow. His two bad defeats to the one...
How would you rate him against Baksi? Baksi beat him and seemed to actually do better over the long haul, but was never rated as high as...
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"deserves honourable mention." I think so do the men with wins over the great black fighters who were ducked by the white champions, but were...
One thing--once Sonny is brought in by the police, any identity charade means nothing as he would be fingerprinted and from then on the police...
"lied to police that they were their own brother. Wouldn't work in 2014 of course." Might not have worked that well in the 1940's either. They...
This thread caused me to check on what non-champions beat more than one lineal champion up to 1980. This is what I found with comments-- Tommy...
Mauriello--No. I don't think very close, even with his high ratings, which seem to me be a bit over ratings. Yes he staggered Louis, but was KO'd...
Thompson--No. Deserves consideration as he might well be the biggest puncher of the forties next to Louis. Had early power but like a lot of big...
I don't quite see the reason to bother with this charade. Why doesn't Sonny just call himself Wesley and claim to be whatever age he wants to pass...
Just on Layne "Layne was DOA in big fights." With wins over two champions? Also Satterfield. And the LaStarza fight was a dead even affair...
Doesn't answer what happened to the real Charley. Did he pretend to be older than he was and somebody else? I am certain everyone can come up...
