You're talking about the last 4 or 5 months of his reign now, literally.
Exactly. Tate was a heavy favourite to beat Berbick, and it was Berbick more than Weaver that ruined Tate. Berbick beat Tate in 1980 and had 3...
Depends when you say their primes end.
You're talking about alphabet belts now. They mean virtually nothing. Yes, in the 1990s even a palooka like Bruno could manage to pick up a belt....
That's nonsense. Norton and then Weaver were probably the best of that era, 1978-'82. At the time, Cooney had a lot of people saying he was the...
Exactly. I've been accused in the past on this forum of extreme anti-Tyson bias for pointing that exact thing out, which is the opposite of being...
Tyson was a better puncher than Holmes, no one is disputing that. Since when was Douglas hard hitting? Name all the top heavyweights he KO'd or...
Mostly he did, but so what ? Larry Holmes had some poor "filler" fights in between his quality challengers. Same as every other champion with 20+...
Yes, which should be considered when rating who had the better career. Tyson seems to be a guy who needs to be young, prime, perfect shape, 100%,...
Holmes schooled Shavers 12-0 in the first fight. It was very one-sided. No need for any rematch. Tyson won against Ruddock by controversial...
Okay, a war-torn, heart condition, slowed-down juicehead, 6-1 underdog. Tyson got his ass torn up.
No, I got BOTH the points you were making. You mentioned a declining Tyson 1999-2000 still be able to KO Spinks. I said, yes, but a 45 year old...
that's true, but .... Holmes beat : Norton Shavers (twice) Weaver (who beat Tate, Coetzee, Williams, deserved a win against Dokes 2nd time as...
Yes, but what are you going to give Holmes for NOT being destroyed by Douglas-level opposition in his prime? This is about how Holmes compares to...
Yes, but the fact that Berbick was still highly ranked (he'd done nothing since Tyson obliterated him) was due to the division being in a poor...
