That's not what the debate is about.. read more please
So since many experts considered Pavlik elite and that he was better then Hopkins prior to their fight, it's now historical fact? WRONG, but using...
How so ? You actually believe that? I hate to bring it up to you, but Lacy never beat anyone of consequence before fighting Joe either
Bigbone, if you got quotes from those experts today... they would mostly all admit that Lacy was overhyped and Calzaghe was underrated. As hard as...
Oh the good old "Calzaghe Ruined Him" argument .... you bring shame to the name Socrates.
Wow, looks like I got on someone's nerves :) You can calm down now, I have no interest in debating someone as dogmatic as you. You have the right...
oh and BTW -- what makes you elite .. is WINNING FIGHTS AND PROVING IT IN THE RING...... not what experts say outside the ring.
Using your argument, nothing is ever set in stone unless the experts say so. Most experts now admit that Lacy was overrated and that he was hyped...
Just because "experts" considered him elite doesn't make it so...
Ignorance is bliss, isn't it.
You would like to believe that , wouldn't you.
Sorry but Calzaghe vs Lacy has no business on there... we all know that Lacy was NEVER elite. Calzaghe just outclassed a B level fighter at best
Gtfo noob
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Margarito is just not the same fighter without the cement in his gloves, he'll lost to all top level guys and Cotto would beat his ass in a rematch...
