"baseball and boxing have so little in common" I don't think I'm comparing them, only pointing out, as did guilalah, that prime has no meaning...
Excellent point. To use another baseball example, Ted Williams was probably the toughest out in the American League in 1960 when he was 42. Was...
"take a look at current top ten heavyweight's ages" Well, here are the top ten and then the next ten (at boxrec) 61-3 (37) 19-0 (32) 49-2 (37)...
McVey--Fair points. But Johnson's title reign still missed the top men. Jeff--He deserves to get racked for avoiding Johnson. Martin I don't...
1--Louis 2--Ali 3--Marciano 4--Lewis 5--Jeffries 6--Dempsey 7--Foreman 8--Johnson I see nothing to really criticize Louis for. Most of the...
"It's believed that the poor showing" Okay. But do we have proof that Fitz held Jeff cheap, rather than guesswork and suppositions? Just asking....
Lewis coming back today--We are not talking about comebacks after a decade or more out of the sport. We're talking about just saying someone who...
I haven't done a top ten rating and thought about it in depth lately, but I would rate Johnson outside the top five, probably about seventh or...
"Ketchel ko'd O'Brien" O'Brien's weight is given as 162 1/2 for Johnson in 1909. He seems himself to have been a super-middleweight. As for...
"Both have serious holes when you look closely" "When he either fought, or re-matched, them, takes some of the shine from his triumphs." That...
"Fitz didn't think much of the young Jeff" I would like to have a quote on this one. Gilbert Odd has this quote from Fitz the morning after the...
Prime is a meaningless concept for me. What matters is can someone out there defeat you and do they. No one but Jeffries could defeat Fitz from...
Did Ketchel actually weigh in for Johnson, and did Fitz actually weigh in for Jeffries? All I would say about Ketchel is that he is the...
"Jeffries who has just Sharkey" "Johnson has Burns" No. Jeffries has Fitz. Fitz was obviously a much better fighter than Sharkey and clearly...
Fitz--I can't see comparing the Fitz of 1899 (or even 1902) to the Fitz of 1907 or the Jeff of 1910, or to the 1906 Langford. Fitz was the...
