Lewis Holyfield Wlad Tyson Bowe Vitali Vitali-can't rate him higher when he blew the big ones. Bowe-Golota spoils a higher rating....
I just have to add my comments. The argument that defeating Fitz is somehow under any circumstances less impressive than defeating Ortiz just...
"Does either or both merit a top 10 seed and again why?" Questionable in both cases. "Who do you rate greater" I have to go with Liston...
"one of the greatest bantamweight champions ever" That is actually what I disputed mainly. If numbers make greatness, Ortiz might be judged...
"Fitz preceded by 3 champions" Oh, come on. Fitz held his rankings for decades. This is the rankings from the 1976 Ring Record Book--post...
"I would take his 20 plus successful defences over Fitzsimmons 0." Certainly is more statistically impressive, by far. It raises the issue of...
"Young guys? I am 63." Spring chicken compared to me. "Jeffries did a decent job, but retired when he could have fought Johnson." Very fair...
"he's seen as one of the best there ever was and there's not much arguing with that" Except the folks who actually saw him fight seem to have...
"pure 100% bull****" Seems to be. "intentional" More poor reading skills. This is what it said on IMDB....
"unquestionably one of the best fighters ever to lace them up at his weight" His contemporaries didn't seem to be as impressed as many are now....
"How anyone can say that huge weight disparities should not be factored into the assessment of a man's record is beyond me" Because this is real...
"Sharkey was probably seen as a safe bet as in his previous fight he had drawn with Choynski" Sharkey had knocked Choynski down several times...
"Fitz was forty pounds lighter than his opponent" He was fighting in an unlimited class. The definition of the heavyweight champion is the man...