The Ring Magazine did put out ratings (done, I believe, by Rickard) starting in 1924. The ratings were just one to ten. 1924 1--Dempsey...
Let's look at expert opinion Ring Magazine July, 1946, Jack Johnson "A Champ Recalls" ""There is only one man who stands out today, Joe Louis,...
The problem with falling back on the "consensus" that Dempsey was better 1--much of it is from the white press, or filtered through the white...
I saw the Lombardi Packers (for non-Americans, an NFL team which won five championships in the 1960's) live from the stands, so if I say they...
The issue is more whether Dempsey should ever have been rated that highly, Wills, as I posted, was generally rated below Johnson and Langford....
On the original question Wills was not generally viewed in his own day as being on quite the same level as Johnson and Langford from the...
"within the time period . . . how and why they occurred" In this case the obvious answer is racism and racial politics. Does anyone doubt...
"You can't look back at that time period and judge by today's standard" And why not exactly? What standard is supposed to be used? Are you...
On Langford and Dempsey, Dempsey did say in his 1959 autobiography that his manager was arranging a fight with Langford and that he rejected it....
Interesting discussion. One thing--yes, some are not accepting the point of view of the 1920's in 2012. nothing wrong with that--each...
"Louis was old and overweight" Well, he was old. He was in superb shape, though. Off the film, he didn't carry an ounce of fat. "He was...
You can do this with anybody. Schmeling was blown out in 1 round by Gypsy Daniels. He lost to an aging Jack Sharkey who was never able to beat a...
My own take is that Schmeling had next to no foot movement. He had no choice but to be right in front of Baer. Fighters like Walcott and Charles...
comments Sullivan vs Corbett--I don't see a 34 year old lasting 21 rounds against an undefeated challenger the worst of all performances....
And all this doesn't change that Machen, Valdes, and Baker were 0-5 against Moore and Johnson. Valdes did defeat Charles. Also you are selecting...