Gene Fullmer: Ray Robinson x2 Carmen Basilio x2 Spider Webb x2 Tiger Jones x2 Charles Humez Rocky Castellani Paul Pender Florentino Fernandez...
Yes. The notion that Chavez would pummel Ortiz mercilessly on the inside is ridiculous.
So it doesn't matter to you that there is a massive style difference between Ortiz and Camacho? ... Some analyst you are.
I've seen it. What?
From where this idea of a fanatical, rabid, Armstrong-esque Chavez came from, I have no idea. But it's false.
No, it's not the end of the story at all. Why do you think Ortiz has to imitate Whitaker and follow his blueprint? He was intelligent enough to...
Crazy. Ortiz could outbox Chavez - it's not like Chavez piles on the pressure in the same suffocating way as Henry Armstrong. Ortiz would have...
Valdez-Briscoe II.
You do know Ortiz was a massive lightweight? He was a light welterweight champion before he moved down; and he dealt with punchers just as vicious...
Ike Williams Henry Armstrong Jimmy Carter Carlos Ortiz Roberto Duran
No? Who exactly would you put over him?
On ability? 1. Ray Robinson 2. Joey Giardello 3. Gene Fullmer 4. Randolph Turpin 5. Dick Tiger 6. Carmen Basilio 7. Carl Olson 8. Jake LaMotta...
#20 heavyweight.
You called him an 'anal *****' who 'reeks of the sweat of a hundred gays.' Conveniently, you edited your post soon after...
It is? Could've fooled me. But I already said, I would have interpreted it in the same way! I'm merely arguing in favour of Bill - it was fine for...
