I'm not saying Monzon wasn't an all-time great... he was... but I think Jones was much better. You can't always just look at how long a guy was...
What facts are those, that Monzon never beat an all-time great who was in their prime?
First of all, a prime well prepared Jones gives any fighter he faces (under HW) trouble. Who "could" beat him? I'm not saying all of these guys...
I don't even rate guys by division very much. Too many weight classes! I just like to pick who would win in H2H prime vs. prime situation. With...
I didn't say I rate Mosley at JWW or Toney at LHW... I don't. I'm just saying that in H2H/"Mythical" Match-Ups, I would pick Mosley to beat plenty...
Sugar Shane Mosley skipped over JWW but I'd pick him over almost any man who ever fought at JWW. Hopkins skipped over SMW. M. Spinks, Moorer,...
Who wins? Why? How?
He'd probably still kick your ass though! lol
At SMW he beat Malinga KO6, Toney W12, Pazienza KO6, jumped up for a fight at LHW and beat Sosa KO2 then went back to SMW for two more fights...
Well...... if we pretend that Jones retired after Tate I'd say Monzon was better...... but he didn't. MW, SMW, it's still Middleweight to me.
Monzon and Hagler stayed at MW. It looked like Hopkins would as well but he eventually moved up. Hopkins skipped SMW and beat Tarver for the LHW...
Hey, maybe one of the forum members is/was "potentially" better than Ali? Yeah, probably not!
Even a crude guy John Ruiz would box circles around John L. pretty easily.
Solid post!!!
Very true... and 9-1 in World Title Fights.