Just look at who Floyd beat at 30 and older
De La Hoya
You have to look at where they were when beaten as well.
I rate Wards wins over Kessler and Froch highly even though I feel both were a bit faded....
How was Frochs win over Pascal, Bute or Groves far superior to Mitchell?
Who had Bute beaten as rated as Liles who Mitchell had beaten?
You are jumping in and out of other debates and comments. That isnt what was meant.
It was pointed how easily Hopkins beat Pavlik and implying he...
What are you going on about?
Mitchell. Quite clearly and obviously.
Not on any of the judges cards he didnt. So you are trying to site...
Some of those fights you noted weren't at LHW.
The thread is just what they did in the weight and not if they beat a fighter at another weight...
I must admit that I am surprised
I didn't know which way it would go but thought it would be less even in whichever way
He was inside the CW limit on his debut, so I don't include that
I know what the question was. I wrote it.
I was just saying what I thought he meant.
I agree the Hill win was good, but Hill was coming off a...
I think it was even possible he could have been given a count for what I thought was a KD scored by Jones, but that was ruled as being hit on the...
by the way you wrote - lost a UD no biggie, which gave me the impression when saying no biggie as if it wasn't a bad loss. Which it was. Which is...
I think what he is saying is that although less fights, thinks the level of opposition was greater for Hopkins.
That's what I think he is saying...
He lost a UD to Hopkins also
I take it you haven't watched the first Harding fight. Harding was very dominant and scored a KD. Tarver was barely...
I have heard it said, but many fighters gain weight during fights, before and after.
There was I believe around 6 months from when filming had...
Now now. We know Calzaghe went up in weight, travelled to America and beat both, but this is about the better LHW resume between Jones and Hopkins
Yes, that is true that that was Pavliks LHW career, but on that one performance, I dont think it means he wouldnt have some success at LHW. That...
I think Wards win over Kessler is above any win Ottke had, even though Kessler was faded and with vision problems, he was still a very good SMW....
You point to the body of work which is a fair debate.
Would you feel that overall Ottke has a greater resume at SMW than Ward?
Ward has a better...
None were rated lhws though
That is a very definitive post.
Do you also feel Hopkins has the better LHW resume?
Much to my surprise it is now 50/50
I think Erdei would have beaten all of them.
I dont think he was as under the radar as you say, but one that was high risk low reward
Erdei was a...
Another post earlier in the thread touched on the subject
see page 2
Roy was Erdies WBO mandatory at one time
Hopkins after beating Tarver seemed more interested in fighting fighters having to come up in weight for...