I can't believe that at 6'4 he weighed only around 190 lbs, at least it's tough to believe based on photos we have.
Well, he beat Harold Johnsom who had one of the best if not the best jab ever.
Did I ever called him that way? I just said that you may overstate gow crude he was and that he was very effective. Nothing more and nothing less.
Moore's weakness is that faster fighters gave him a lot of problems. We've seen that against Charles and later against Patterson (though he was...
There are no reasons to believe so though.
He might be, but some reports also call him very fast and he was certainly effective.
True, but he didn't fight black fighters.
In very limited footage we have, Sharkey looks fine enough and he didn't do things you imply here. He...
You're talking about bareknuckle then, because in gloved boxing it was well established that a round was 3 minutes long.
I think that you...
Depends, watch Nelson vs Gans for example - they had higher work rate than most modern fighters in 40s rounds!
15 rounds is nothing compared to 25 or 45 rounds (or finish fight).
I haven't seen that much from Valdes to be fair, was he good enough to brawl with someone as good as Mickey Walker?
It's true, but it's not because he was too advanced technically.
You can research this forum for training methods of fighters from that era. Training with weights was common back then, although it's true that...
This is not true.
But he started his career in 1902.
Well, first of all - gloves were much smaller back then. This made high guard basically useless in long fights. Secondly - duration of fights,...
What does "modern training methods" mean? What did 1980s fighters do that 1900s fighters were too stupid to do?
I can actually agree with that, but the problem with Baer is that he wasn't motivated and he'd lose to bunch of lesser fighters that Liston...
How about Joe Gans then? Packey McFarland? Sam Langford? Hell, even someone like Tommy Burns. They all look good, very good in fact.
No, they didn't use the same methods. I'm asking you if you know Sharkey's training methods. Without this knowledge, you're not allowed to...
What footage of Sharkey have you seen? What I've seen isn't good or long enough to be a measure stick.
What do you mean?
Again, you base it on what?
But what makes "modern" training that much better? Do you know Sharkey's training details? What techniques did fighters use in Tyson's era that...
I know, but I want to see what you see wrong in Sharkey's fighting that you so quickly downgrade his chances against even journeymen.
What clips exactly? Can you show us them?
Corbett isn't one of them, Corbett was a fighter who relied heavily on his quickness and speed.
Fitzsimmons certainly was elite though.