Sorry to get your hopes up, I haven't seen the match up directly discussed in years, but just recently saw a thread where "Williams could have...
I wouldn't say Tyson and Foreman (two of the most universally beloved wrecking machines post Liston) is a realistic ceiling for a guy that...
I can't believe anyone is using friendly trash talking as an argument for anything on this board. It's obvious it was all banter between most of...
This thread should really be asking what would Bernard Hopkins excuses be when he loses? Or can Marvin hagler stop Hopkins.... I think he could.
Very nice of Patterson to say that after losing to a man who had 10 inches in reach and 25 lbs on him. Speaking of first round KOs in Heavyweight...
Liston certainly was a force, but in the grand scheme he had massive physical advantages over most of his opponents that many of the great...
Liston had 25 lbs on Patterson! That is a massive weight advantage that nobody you listed with the exception of Ali (who preferred to punish...
If you're a Liston fan you got to big this guy up, though he was about as relevant to the HW scene when he got knocked around by Liston as he was...
Exactly. I think Chag and Iggy would be frustrating for Primo but I don't think they are as dangerous as Haye would be. Haye was timid but he...
This isn't prime Ruiz. This is the slipping 33-35 year old Ruiz who fought Value twice, had just lost to Toney, and had just been bounced around...
Barrett Ruiz Old Holyfield...without controversy Gatekeeper McCline Briggs He might lose to Chag, and Sultan. Maybe. These guys were all gun...
One last thing: Valuev's resume is built on a controversial ABC title win over one top 10 RING fighter in John Ruiz, whom was on a decline after...
And actually got in the ring with the genuine Heavyweight Champion of the world and beat him. Valuev held the lowest regarded of the ABC titles...
Chag never wrecked anyone of note. He was a very good technician but not gifted with power or speed at the elite level. He was also shorter than...
Valuev got a gift decision against a 46 year old punch drunk Holyfield. He couldn't land a glove on him and got beat to the punch. Dubious...
