¡Kermit Cintron es solamente BASURA!

Why did you even bother specifying that you think my biases have to do with where people are from, if it isn't relevant in this particular topic? :huh

 

Teddy Reid!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:


That changes everything. :think

 

...except maybe ones that are?

On its face, the very act of getting in the no man's land of the squared circle puts anybody in the top percentile of bad mother****ers on this planet and commands immediate respect. That's more of a guideline than a rule, though.

Boxers can forfeit their right to that immediate respect by their behaviors once in the ring.

Case in point: does Julio David Roque Ler deserve respect for stepping into the ring with Jorge Arce, only to turn tail and run? (openly mocking both the paying audience and Arce himself, and worst of all making a mockery of the SWEET SCIENCE itself and its competitive spirit?)

Of course not.

Yeah, he stepped in there with a tough action hero with a punch. That isn't the end of the story, though. His subsequent behaviors forfeited the respect that initial act earned him.

Same with Cintron.

Yeah, he got in with Margarito - then folded under the pressure. Both times.

He got in with Martinez, and wanted out from very early on. He had to be encouraged to stick it out (because his handlers probably knew the deal, that he only had to see the final bell to escape without a loss).

He got in with Williams, and after testing the waters he got RIGHT the **** back out.

He got in with Molina and by the halfway point was acting like a beaten man with that wild pleading look in his eyes.

He got in with Alvarez and already had that look in his eyes during the RING WALK.

 

Never worked in a restaurant? :yep Peeped all the labels on those bins in the kitchen or on the doorway out to Dumpster Alley?

 

I think showing up at welterweight drawn and weak would be tantamount to sticking his neck out and asking to be KTFO at this point.

It isn't like he's terribly elusive anymore, either. Someone like a Zaveck would get to him and smash him to bits.

There's no salvaging a career as a top contender at this point, at any weight. It's gate-keeping or retirement.

 

You're right...it isn't and I hate to do so, but it's frustrating to see someone constantly having excuses and promises made on their behalf when it couldn't be any more obvious that they're just plain rubbish as a fighter. So many are in denial. Some people just aren't very good at certain things. Doing it takes a certain amount of character. Repeatedly failing (and at times seeming to not even really try) doesn't reflect as well on someone's character, though. He tried boxing, starting late. Good for him. He never got very good at it, and never will. (yet he's had more big paydays and chances to swim in the deep end than anybody of his actual talent & skill level - and keeps sinking like a rock without even attempting to paddle)

In reality Kermit isn't any better than a club fighter. He can destroy the Walter Matthysses of the world, but that's about it. "The Killer" just ain't no killer at all.

FFS dude, there were people picking him over Canelo. Seriously picking him. Sure, some of them were probably just Canelo haters thinking wishfully - but a few people seemed to really believe it. After everything up until now. After all the evidence that Cintron even at his best didn't belong in the ring with a Canelo (or, in hindsight - with a then little-known Maravilla...or even Margarito) - let alone now that he's lost a step or three.

Everybody agrees that he declined. The question is where he started and where he finished up. He went from "average" to "horrible". Some people still seem to think he went from "very good, potentially great" to "still decent, potentially good". :-(