¿Has Tyson ever mentioned Kevin Rooney over the years?

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  1. Fabiandios

    Fabiandios Member Full Member

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    I'm curious how it all ended. What really happened that made Mike not even mention him in interviews? He's talked about many boxers and trainers, praising them or discussing them, even Don King or Floyd Patterson, but I've never heard anything about Rooney.

    Did their relationship end that badly?
     
  2. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He’s too embarrassed. According to Steve Lott

    I agree, it makes sense. (He feels guilty)
     
  3. impacted

    impacted Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He gave an interview to 'The Ring' in 94 from prison and buried Rooney. Said Cayton and Jacobs wanted him to be trained by Eddie Futch but that he stuck with Rooney out of loyalty to D'Amato. Said that Rooney overestimated his own importance too. To be honest I find it a myth that Tyson's career after 1990 would have turned out much different whoever was training, managing or promoting him.
     
  4. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was showing signs of rapid decline in the Bruno fight. Subtle things he wasn’t doing in the Tubbs fight too, if you compare that to the guy in with Tyrell Biggs. Too many outside distractions.
     
  5. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I believe the Tyson who faced Pinklon and Biggs was punch perfect. Moving his head even when he didn’t have to to bait and counter or to be positioned at mid range (where he operated cleanest).
     
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  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rooney was canned because Mike Tyson told him flat-out to not talk about his marriage/wife/family to the press.

    Rooney proceeded to do just that.

    So Mike canned him.

    Kevin should have known better. The man was in a marriage and wanted to make it work. He lives with her. Then someone who works for him is talking about that marriage publicly and what Rooney says is being reported. It’s 100% out of line and none of his business — his job is to train the fighter, not talk about his personal life.
     
  7. Overhand94

    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    There is an interview from 2016 where Tyson acknowledged that firing Rooney was one of the biggest mistakes he made.
    I will send you the link when I find it.

    Edit : https://nationalpost.com/sports/thi...-nuclear-trevor-berbick-went-down-three-times

    Quote : " There’s a lot of things I wish I could have done differently,” he said.

    One of them was firing Rooney.

    Asked whether his career might have gone differently if he had kept Rooney, Tyson said, “Hell yeah. Hell [expletive] yeah. I’d still be champion today.”
     
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  8. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Givens was a gold digger. She was impacting him negatively. Of course Rooney would want to get involved.
     
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  9. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know this history, but I'll that if true, I'm with you. You don't talk **** about a man's wife, period. Now, if he asks your opinion, and you know she's a toxic shithead, you can find a polite way to explain that to him, but to just go out in public and say private **** you know about a man's marriage? **** you. Not cool. Simple as that.
     
  10. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Talking publicly about your boss’ private life, when he has explicitly told you not to go there, is a good way to get fired. Source: Kevin Rooney.

    Whatever Kevin or anyone else thought of her or the marriage, it was Tyson’s marriage and not Kevin’s. He’s a boxing trainer, not Dr. Phil. If he had any advice for Mike, he could have told him that — but to take his views to the press after being told not to is a case of ‘play stupid games, win stupid prizes.’

    As for Givens negatively affecting Tyson, he wasn’t exactly making great life choices before her. Everyone around him wanted something for themselves and not for him — Cus wanted his last champion, Jimmy Jacobs and Bill Cayton wanted to make millions off him (and assigned themselves the rights to his fights so they’d ‘own’ him forever rather than giving him at least a split equal to theirs), later on Don King wanted the same. They were all gold-diggers.
     
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  11. Journeyman92

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    If he’d been with Futch or Miller… what a time to be alive it would’ve been.
     
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  12. Saintpat

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    If he listened.

    Tyson reached a point where he didn’t care. A trainer can’t make a fighter do something he doesn’t want to do, focus where he doesn’t want to focus. Mike was doing 3 a.m. shopping sprees in jewelry stores opened at that hour just for him, fighting Mitch Green on the street, partying from New York to Tokyo (literally) and had gotten to a place where he figured he could win without working (which lasted for a minute or two til Buster came along).

    Mike was never again going to be the youngster afraid of going back to reform school who was living with an old man and woman and doing what he was told, watching fight films all night instead of watching naked women at strip clubs.

    The balance of power had shifted — he was a grown man, rich beyond his dreams, the toast of the town and biggest celebrity wherever he went. His trainer worked for him, not the other way around. His managers and even promoter had to kowtow to his every whim.

    I honestly think even before he canned Rooney, it no longer mattered who was training him because Mike was going to call the shots and do what he wanted, when he wanted, where he wanted and how he wanted.

    He had absolute power, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
     
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    100%
     
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  14. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    :lol:

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  15. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    Spot on.

    What separates Tyson from other ATG like Ali or Louis is that they didnt allow success to get into their heads, keeping their work ethics, training hard and taking care of themselves (In the case of Louis at least after being beaten by Schmeling).

    Tyson just went all Scarface's "the world is yours" with predictable results.
     
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