¿Which of them do you think would give Prime Ali a more worthy fight?

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¿Which of them do you think would give Prime Ali a more worthy fight?

  1. Ike Ibeabuchi

    9 vote(s)
    15.3%
  2. Alexander Povetkin

    13 vote(s)
    22.0%
  3. Jack Dempsey

    26 vote(s)
    44.1%
  4. Jack Johnson

    7 vote(s)
    11.9%
  5. David Haye

    2 vote(s)
    3.4%
  6. David Tua

    2 vote(s)
    3.4%
  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mr Gadfly Full Member

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    That was just a rumour that I like to repeat to upset you people lol (works great) at least there is something to it unlike all the unverified quotes by Cus’dmato we see deployed over the years.
     
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  2. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Lol. Bait? Sure. It’s all just repetition of your own stupidity, over and over.

    No one is upset with you. They just think you’re not too bright and somewhat unstable.

    You write like a pre adolescent - your deep psychological issues permeate your each and every post.

    No one reads me? Lol. You are sooo needy. Okay. Well, that’s just another delusion of yours.

    Re Young wearing the cuffs. So what is the “something” to it? Cough it up.

    Like I said, you’re ALWAYS blabbering out of your proverbial. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Your empty points have been addressed - meanwhile you can’t converge on any points/counter points to save your life.

    :lol::lol::lol:
     
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  3. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    I’ve already stated my piece - and yes, let’s be honest, my complete address contrasted against your cursory address, clearly highlights how superficial your own treatment is.
     
  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mr Gadfly Full Member

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    Cool - so which of my points exactly did you address??? Sticking to official results… The bottom line of all those posts was Povetkin, Haye and others on that level can beat ATG’s “contenders contend” Norton is an example of a solid pro/contenders (nothing more and you agree) making it happen what’s wrong with that? he had a good plan and fought well but lost to the best bar on a famed night… I think he beat Ali in fight 3 I think he lost to Holmes clear and wide enough for a UD. Do you think Norton is so far removed from guys like Douglas, Sanders and Quarry? Good fighters not greats that’s what it comes down to lol - I was addressing the dismissing typical for guys like Povetkin and Haye beating Ali when they did very well in there careers and could maybe do about as well as Norton (they were the same class of fighters) I don’t even think they’d do “as well” I gave them an “okay” chance so what’s with all your annoying mumbo jumbo posts exactly? Oh that’s right because you got in your feelings about me calling Norton a club fighter (Fish, hook) lol if you read my posts in this thread you’d see I have a pretty balanced take this whole time. Stay on topic and I’ll reveal the truth about my esoteric uncle.
     
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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Tua KO's him.

    Dead man walking.
     
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  6. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You say you've 'stated your piece,' but a lengthy reply laced with condescension isn't a 'complete address' if it sidesteps the core issues. Using elaborate language to obscure a lack of substance doesn't change the fundamental point: Norton's fame largely hinges on his competitive losses fights against Ali and Holmes. Beyond that, a win over a faded Quarry and a debatable decision over Young doesn't equate to the deep, stylistically diverse resume you're trying to imply he has.

    Calling out these limitations isn't 'superficial'; it's a factual assessment of his record. Perhaps a truly 'complete address' would involve actually refuting these specific points about his resume depth, rather than just resorting to a dismissive tone and mischaracterizations.
     
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  7. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mr Gadfly Full Member

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    You’re fine the 60s-70s Ali scene here just gets a religious following and there are a few folks around here who make it there personal and invested work to defend dead athletes at all costs be it there physique (seriously) moral compass or there hallowed “status” on a niche forum lol see the lengths people go to make Foreman and Chisora the same size recently? Everything Ali touches turns to gold here.
     
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  8. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am well aware I've had many similar arguments in the past including with this very poster who unfortunately has a tendency to ignore people's points and just reinstate his own over and over in a condescending tone because while he can use big words he can't meaningfully engage with opposing viewpoints at all.
     
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  9. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mr Gadfly Full Member

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    That’s pretty much the play book for that poster to a T :sisi1 don’t forget the fake eccentric dribble he does and the emoji spam… I think he forgets the first law of communicating well (I’m no pro, I am not admittedly a bright fellow) is to well… communicate not just gouge the dictionary for nice words to pretty up basic arguments.
     
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  10. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The smartest folks break down complex ideas into clear, simple points. Dressing up basic arguments with fancy words and emoji spam just screams poser.
     
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  11. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Lol, you’re all over the place like a mad woman’s excrement.

    You haven’t got a clue and your posts always uphold your internal mental struggle.

    You raised the topics of Norton being a club fighter and the claim that Young wore the cuffs you numbat…:lol:….and the idiotic Uncle Jimmy line never was funny…..but tell us more about who’s trying to frame themselves as an eccentric, out there guy…..you clearly have a serious identity crisis going on….”Aye”…..:lol:
     
  12. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    I characterised your post perfectly. I’ve already provided due analysis. Your own pointless rhetoric doesn’t change that fact.

    For one thing, stating that Norton lost all but one is disingenuous - unless you’re going to inexplicably claim that Norton didn’t beat Ali in the rubber and you should’ve been awarded the title.

    Close but Norton beat Young clearly - and Norton was already 34 yo, past his best.

    It was Norton’s rematch with Ali that could’ve gone either way - Norton could’ve easily seen a clean sweep against Muhammad - but the robbery in the 3rd fight proved exactly what Norton was up against throughout the series.

    An even older Norton, 2 months shy of age 35, ran Holmes absolutely down to the wire.

    Yep, your drop in post was extremely shallow. Nothing new and you’re simply a time waster.
     
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  13. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Nice echo chamber for two. Perhaps you pair should get a room. So very sad. :lol:
     
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  14. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mr Gadfly Full Member

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    Oh the irony :sisi1 you should be blushing.
     
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  15. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mr Gadfly Full Member

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    Firstly Ew man and secondly… Projecting just a little bit there Pugguy it wouldn’t take Freud to notice and the mask is slipping a bit too. Like @themaster458 said you’re just reinstating the same things no matter how much clarification you get? Like most people would’ve figured out my stance by now just fine, it’s not hard to follow… Young thing is a rumour, club fighter line was bait and Norton is about on the level of Douglas, Sanders, Young, Witherspoon and Quarry etc and proof those guys can cause an upset and do “Okay” - Are you okay? Like you’re seriously choosing to be this irritated and (tactically) ignorant enough to keep attempting to reframe things because you’re this invested emotionally in boxing opinions and “forum beef’s”? (It’s been soooo long) Aren’t you a grown man? Like 30-40? Write up whatever but I’m not responding man I’m starting to feel like I’m genuinely (not sarcasm) distressing you.
     
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