¿Which of them do you think would give Prime Ali a more worthy fight?

Sure, it all changes and becomes “bait” every time your stupidity is called out. <Sneeze> “Cop out!”.

Again, you’re all over the place like a you know what’s you know what. You’re posting like an emotional wreck.

So it’s my mask that’s slipping, tell us more Kami come JourneyMan come Who Am I?

Your complete lack of any self awareness is hysterical, “Aye”.

You’re putting out collective insults to a number of posters in Classic - because, of course, you know better than most…..

You’re a pathetic little man, still shooting up emergency flares for someone, anyone, to try and help you out. It is seriously cringe but it’s patently obvious that you can’t help yourself.

That little tactic backfired brilliantly before - now you’re trying to pretend that it didn’t happen - you made an absolute goose of yourself and everyone duly distanced themselves from you.

Who understands you? There has been many who tell you that they don’t, - it’s just not sinking in for you, is it?

But you’ve got 1 new friend it seems - so you better hang on to him for dear life.

So now, according to you, Norton isn’t a club fighter, he actually won ant least 2 out of 3 vs Ali (including a win for the all important title) and you still provided anything re your own asinine topic: Young wearing the cuffs.

So, no mistake, you’re a self admitted BS artist, only here to post inanities and waste time.

 

No that’s only the facts shush.

 

Well in fairness Ron Stander would be somewhere in his top 5-10 wins probably should watch it to fully evaluate the guy who probably beat a shot Ali and debatably Jimmy Young - thinking about it he might be a step BELOW Povetkin H2H in an overall sense let Futch be in his corner and who knows.

 

In my heart Uncle Jim is the fighter of the 70s (aka the universe) with the right breaks he’d be the guy who defeated Lyle x 2, 70s Foreman, “Suga” Norton and Muhammad Ali can you name one fighter with a better hypothetical but almost happened resume?

 

Your response is textbook projection. You accuse me of being "disingenuous" while conveniently rewriting history. Norton-Young was a split decision that many observers, including the referee Carlos Padilla, thought Young won. It wasn't "clearly" Norton's fight as you falsely claim.

You're selective with your "could've gone either way" standard. You insist Norton "clearly" beat Young despite it being a controversial split decision, yet pretend that Holmes-Norton was a close controversial fight when it was a clear win for Holmes. Norton himself admitted he thought he was going to lose the Young decision before it was announced.

You still haven't named a single significant win demonstrating Norton's excellence against varied styles outside the Ali/Holmes fights. Just deflection, condescension, and moving goalposts.

The irony is striking you claim my analysis is "extremely shallow" while offering zero substantive response to my actual point about Norton's limited resume depth. Instead, you've shifted to debating scorecards and playing the "could've gone either way" game.

When you're ready to actually discuss Norton's resume depth rather than rehashing controversial decisions with double standards, let me know.

 

More projection and proving my point nice job!

 

I'd rank Witherspoon higher tbh way more proven over a number of different styles of fighters

 

Ike. Ali never fought a 6' 2" , 245 pound tank with the speed, style , power, stamina and chin ...

 

Dempsey....addressing a previous post saying Young had cuffs on against Norton is pure BS. A very good friend of mine was a sparring partner for Young. Jimmy believed he was robbed in that fight which is when he turned to the nose candy and lost his desire. He only fought for paychecks to keep him afloat after that.

 

Young despite me half kidding around in here was an honest pro and rightfully by my cards did beat both Ali and Norton, actually against Ali as much as MA was overweight (though he didn’t look overly out of shape, carried the weight well) I think he exposed how technically flawed Ali was more then any other fighter, it was easy to toss out (weight / Age) but those same technical issues still existed and Young found them, much like Bowe losing to Golota falling for the same trick over and over again… even if he was younger, thinner and more with it it doesn’t change his IQ, I think If Young got the version of Ali from the RITJ it might be the same down to the robbery because the media doesn’t want Ali vs Young 2 even Norton was pleading at ringside to Ali “Don’t blow the money!”

 

Some people will say anything to support an agenda Rob. Thanks for putting it straight. Jimmy had a mini period (1981) where he started to look ok again and actually won Rings Comeback of the Year fighter but it subsided as soon as he fought someone good.

 

Young was a hell of a fighter from Lyle 1 through Norton ... what happened after is a shame because the man could fight. In addition he took a hell of a shot .. Other than the (in) famous ko to Shavers , did anyone ever ben knock Young down ? He had a hell of a chin ...

 

“Agenda” yes I secretly desire the total evection of Ali from the number 1 spot on HW lists to make way for Joe Louis! that’s my secret plot in all this, it isn’t because I have differing boxing opinions and nothing more there is an “Agenda” at work here and it’s coming after the “Golden Era”! I also clarified the Young rumour being just that… but keep pretending I am sitting here villainously twirling my moustache.

 

You cannot be the full quid.

 

Jimmy Young is my favourite HW fighter of the 70s honestly. Just a solid guy who knew his stuff, unfortunately his style was built surviving Joe Frazier as a teenager so he could be a bit “self preserving” or negative, Manuel Medina and Jersey Joe Walcott are sort of his “kin” in that respect.