“It was discovered during my great need” - Jim Corbett

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Delusional BUT Determined Full Member

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    “Before I would start my right I would, as they say in boxing, “telegraph” the blow, purposefully. I really didn’t want to him but, but wanted to make him afraid of that hand, and I began swinging it very often, and soon had Choinyski Thinking it wasn’t hurt quite as badly as they said it was this Brett made Choinyski get away from the blow, go to my left, and that gave me a chance to use a little left-hand hook which they hear nothing about in those days. In fact, it had not been used before, nor had I myself used it before. It was just discovered from my great need in using this left hook. I found I could say the two knuckles were hurt, those of the third and little finger by hitting with the side of the hand, and the first knuckle.” - James J Corbett


    Interesting bit about the side of the hand and the first knuckle. For context he broke his thumb during “part 1” of his fight with Choinyski before they relocated.
     
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  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When I was training fighters, we would often go over certain scenarios so they had a plan and wouldn’t panic when something bad happened unexpectedly in a fight.

    One of those was what to do if you broke/hurt your hand. The instruction was to feint, sometimes throw it not to land and maybe test it to the body when the opportunity arose — not the ribs but the middle, soft tissue.

    In sparring, I’d ocassionally tell a fighter between rounds (without the other fellow knowing),’you just broke your right hand, so fight this next round as if it’s broke.’ And then go over it with them after how they did and remind them that they should have feinted it more or thrown it over the guy’s shoulder to hook off it or whatever.

    We also did things sometimes like I’d yell stop and tell Fighter A, ‘you just got knocked down.’ And he’d go down, the other fellow would go to the corner (we also went over this all the time — if you knock a guy down, get to that neutral corner straight away so as not to interrupt the count) and how to get up … if you’re on your back, roll over to get up rather than doing a sit-up because when you’re dazed that can make you more unsteady than if you roll over, get to one knee and then get up.

    Also, when you’ve been knocked down and get up, hold your hands up and look the ref in the eyes and nod to get across that you’re OK. If we practiced this and a guy did not do those things, I’d wave it off and say I’m stopping the fight … because a ref might do that if the fighter didn’t get across that he’s good to continue.

    All sorts of situational details. Prepare for what can happen so you know what to do if it does.
     
  3. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    This would explain Jim’s bizarre left to the body he often throws
     
  4. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    I was re-reading Corbett's book "Scientific Boxing" and found an interesting, albeit amusing excerpt about how to throw an uppercut properly:

    "The upper cut is always delivered at short range, and is a short, sharp, snappy punch, which lands on the point of the jaw unless your opponent is ducking at the time when it lands full on the face. When well delivered, and with force behind it, it is a most damaging blow. Many young boxers have a habit of rushing in head downward."

    It's pretty funny to see Corbett, of all people, say that the uppercut should be short and snappy, and not thrown at long range when that's really all he did with the uppercut.
     
  5. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Delusional BUT Determined Full Member

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    W
    We only have in fairness 10 minutes of Corbett footage total or something like that.
     
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  6. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    True, but then again Corbett's uppercut has achieved a fair amount of infamy on here:

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/corbetts-uppercut.614379/

    People in this thread were using Corbett demonstrating an uppercut as proof that all boxers from that era didn't know how to throw uppercuts.
     
  7. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    I invented walking when I needed it. Yall better thank me.
     
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  8. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Right? I'm pretty sure the first left hook was thrown by some cave-dude at another cave-dude for trying to steal his steak or his cave-woman.
     
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